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Post Gallbladder Surgery Complications – First 150 Testimonies
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“Hi, I hope this information offers hope to some of the ladies suffering extreme pain. Around 6 months ago my wife (46yrs old) started to have abdominal pain. She was given antacid tabs etc, nothing helped. The pain got worse and more frequent and was now accompanied by severe vomiting which usually came after the pain had built to almost unbearable levels. She ultimately had her gall bladder removed as the ultasound scan revealed disease of the gall bladder. Stones basically.
1 operation later and we find ourselves in the middle of a nightmare. Same pain as before, but more frequent and worse. She cried it was so bad. The vomiting was violent.
I researched the net and was convinced she had sphincter oddi syndrome.
She was passed from doctor to doctor with no joy. After 1 particularly bad attack, and by now she was finding it difficult to breathe during an attack, I took her to A&E and refused to leave until they admitted her and diagnosed the problem.
1 MRI scan later they discovered some loose stones had made their way into the bile duct and become trapped. She will have them removed next week and we assume all will be well after that.
I’ll keep you posted.
Please, if you are suffering extreme pain as my wife was, insist they keep you in hospital and give you every possible blood test and scan available. Be rude if you have to. The nicer you are, I find they assume it can’t be that bad and dismiss you easily.
You are entitled to a cure. It’s your right, not a privilege.
I truly hope this helps a little. If you are suffering…there is a reason and there is a cure. Insist they find both.”
“Hi Folks,
Boy this gallbladder stuff is the worst. I had mine out may 2005 and have had pain and a bout of pancreatitis since. Had an MRCP,it was ‘normal’ saw a specialist in Boston and I`m having an endoscopic ultrasound on friday. THe doc thinks this is what my problem is… check this out and if you cant get to the link from here, http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eengs/hints/oddi.html
just type in ‘Sphincter of Oddi or bile duct spasms’ into your search engine. The pain I`ve had is the exact as before I had my gallbladder removed, actually its worse. The docs treated me like I was crazy till my pancreatic enzymes shyrocketed. Personally I think all docs should have to experience undiagnosed illness for a few months before the get their MD.
Anyway, if you have the same kind of pain and your doc is shrugging his shoulders (they take a class in that I think!) check this out… it makes sense to me!
Hope EVERYONE fares well!
Lexxi ”i HAD MY GALL BLADDER REMOVED fEBRUARY 07, & had to see my surgeon after 2 months bec of the pain I had under my rt ribs and back. he ordered ultrasound & blood tests to find out if there are stones in my bile duct. Result came negative so i was referred back to my gastroenterologist and was told that they did not see anything wrong buut he believes it is pain caused by my fibromyalgia. I was given muscle relaxant. I have been taking it for 2 wks now & i still have this disturbing nagging pain. I happen to talk and compare our experiences with my co worker in the hospital, 1 cna & 1 nurse both of them had the gall bladder removed and they have the same problems. This is what we get from having the gall bladder removed. I have friends who talked to other people and have exactly the same problems, pain under the ribs, back pain, constipating 1 day and another day diarrhea. It seems that we have to face the consequence. I will research more and find out about this problem of ours.
” Hello, I’m a 34 year old female and have been suffering from this pain for so many years, I don’t even remember how old I was when it first started. I used to only get an attack once every couple years. But in November of 2008 I had another attack and til this day the pain does not go away. 2 years of constant pain. I had been living of of anti-inflammatory pills, taking 800mg every 4-5 hours and the pain was still never. Nothing ever really takes it away.
My pain is the exact same as most of you have described, however, sometimes it starts right in the middle of my chest, then moves to my right lower rib area, then moves to my back right rib area, then moves up to my right shoulder area…THEN goes all the way down to my lower back area, where your kidney’s would be. This severe pain is constant and lasts for one week, until it calms a bit, but never really goes away.
The other thing that I would like to address, but have not read here as most of your symptoms is that I am constantly struggling to take a breath because inhaling IS SOOOOO PAIN FULL!! I am not able to cough, sneeze, burp, laugh, and finish a normal sentence without running out of air and struggling to take a breathe to finish speaking. Forget walking…I’m slumped over and can’t stand up straight, and because it hurts so much to take a breath, any physical activity is too painful. I have also found that laying down is also very painful, I have to be in a seated position in bed and very still for me to find any comfort. There is no way I can even lay on either side during the attacks…too painful. Although I have found that when I apply pressure to the area (on my right lower rib cage) the pain does subside a bit.
Another symptom I always have with the attacks that I again haven’t read here is that I also get a fever, I haven’t really taken a temperature during this time…but I get really really hot and very weak and fatigued. I’ve also noticed that I get hungry very frequently, I know it’s odd but it’s been my observation.
Here is another finding, I started taking 500mg capsules of L-Carnitine around May this year, and after about a couple weeks of taking one a day I started to notice that it was helping relieve my pain. I don’t know if there is a direct scientific link, but that was the only thing that I had changed in my diet and noticed it helped.
I’m sorry this is so long, but there is so much to write about this topic and YES everyone around me is tired of hearing that I’m sick AGAIN. I feel like such a useless person and that the whole world is living, working, being active and enjoying life while I’m in bed completely immobile in pain…it is depressing.
About the whole gallbladder connection…here is my story…in July of 2009, while visiting Mexico, I had another attack and a friend of mine dragged me to their hospital (my first visit regarding this issue because I know they never find anything so why bother, right) anyhow, after giving all my symptoms they did an ultrasound and found that I had stones in my gallbladder and everything I was describing was a direct result of it. Leaving there relieved that it was nothing really serious and with some GREAT pain meds, I came back to the states and still in pain (it had become chronic by now) I decided to go to one of my US emergency room and see if they have the same findings. Well, after about 6 hours of waiting for results of blood and urine tests, they said that everything came back “”normal”” . I asked them to do an ultrasound, because obviously SOMETHING was NOT normal if I am having pain…right?! Well, they didn’t do it because there was nothing abnormal in my test results. So I contacted a gallbladder specialist dr, and took my x-rays and dr. reports and records that I had done in Mexico with me, he was so excited that I had PPO insurance that he didn’t even do his own tests and went on the “”word”” of the reports from Mexico and scheduled me for surgery to remove my gallbladder. Needless to say, I was excited that I was going to be relieved of the pain (pain=stones in my gallbladder) YEAH RIGHT!! I had surgery August 3rd…and before the month was up I had another attack….SAME PAIN! WTFFF!!! I was so upset and so depressed, everyone told me to call my surgeon and tell him that THAT wasn’t the problem and to help find what it was. I never did. I don’t want to be a guinea pig and a money making machine for our health care system or professionals. The only thing that I have gotten after removing my gallbladder is acid reflux/heartburn…don’t know which is which but it’s very bad in the mornings and if my first meal in the day is fatty/oily I HAVE to run to the bathroom within 20-30 min with crazy diarrhea…sorry if that’s TMI 🙂 Dr. told me that those will go away as my body heals from the surgery, but it’s been over a year and I now have 2 more things I suffer from!! And after searching and searching for some self diagnosis, I found that the closest definition to my condition is Pleurisy, and that concludes my research…sadly.
I so do apologize for this post being very long, but I just want to know if there is anyone else out there with these exact symptoms.
““Hi, I just had my gallbladder removed in June. I developed many problems post op and still have pain, burning and nausea- I was better before the surgery.
I went into the hospital about 3 weeks post-op and had several tests- all of which were negative. I am now about 8 weeks post-op.
I have a history of allergic reaction to titanium implants. I fractured my ankle 5 years ago- had too many problems to go into —but the doctor had determined, a year later, that I had osteomyelitis and I had a scheduled debridement and hardware removal done 11 months after the fracture. They discovered that I did not have an infection. I had inflammation due to the metal implants – and it was determined I was allergic to them.
Now, this doctor that took my gallbladder out knew that I was allergic to metal implants. I only saw him the week before surgery—-never again- not even when I was in the ER after the surgery. It was in my medical chart that I was allergic to metal. He never told me he was implanting metal clips in me. If I had been told, I would have ensured that would not have happened. But, I was not informed.
The second admission to the hospital is when my internal medicine doctor finally asked the gallbladder surgeon if he had used metal clips for closure and sure enough- he had. I did not know until then.
I am now going to see another surgeon and demand that they be removed. In this case, I knew I was allergic to titanium, he knew too and still he used the clips.
But, others here may have the same problem- a metal allergy.
I found a website http://www.melisa.org/ that tests specifically for metal allergy. It is more common than you think.
I am just starting this fight and I hope that the new surgeon will remove the clips. I am now aware that other things have metal in them(such as dental fillings) and I will look into that also as I have several autoimmune disorders that could be linked to metal allergy.
Hope that the website helps for some here.
Kathy ”I too have had my gallbladder taken out 2 years ago and since then everytime that I eat I get horrible stomach aches and then I have to run to the bathroom. And sometimes I just get really bad stomach aches that make me feel like I can’t breath and I try to relax for a few minutes but it usually don’t work. I also try not to eat anything in the morning if I am going to go to work because if I do then I get a stomach ache and I have to run to the bathroom and hope that no one is in there. I have also heard not to eat and drink dairy products because it upsets your stomach. I have also noticed that since my surgery I have had a really gassy stomach. I have tried the immodium, immodium advanced, zantac, pepcid, and a prescription medicine and found that none of them work so I hope that someone has a suggestion so I can spend the rest of my life worrying about my children and not worrying about if I am going to make it to the bathroom or not. I am only 21 I have the rest of my life ahead of me. So if anyone can please help me.
I had my gallbladder removed the beginning of march of this year. the pain from the surgery went away after about 3 weeks and then about 1 week after that i started getting very irritating pain where the surgery was done. i waited to see if the pain would go away but a week later i still had it so i decided to go to the emergency room. the surgeon that did the surgery wanted to admit me. i was in the hospital for 5 days going through cat scans, ultra sounds, mri, blood tests and they also did an upper and lower endoscopy to rule out a flare of my ulcerative colitis. when they concluded that there was NOTHING wrong with me the surgeon sent me home with some vicoden and said the pain would go away. that was about 2 weeks ago the the pain is still there. it seems to get worse as the day goes on being very minimal when i wake up. i went to my primary care doctor and they told me it could be my abdominal wall. the muscles arent healed yet… the only problem is my surgery was 2 months ago. now a week later the pain is STILL there and is NOT getting better. its a constant pain under the right side of my rib cage that seems to radiate around my right side to my back and sometimes radiate to the left side of my stomach. im sick of being blown off and i cant stand doctors lookin at me like im some kinda head case. im only 22 so they cant imagine why i am having these problems but I AM so help me please!!!!! does this sound like any problems any of u are having?
“Hi folks, I had my gallbladder removed just a little over a year ago now, and I have to say that I am more than tired of having to have a BM 3+ times a day. In fact sometiems I have a BM, leave the bathroom and have to be back in there 20 minutes later.
If I had of know that this was going to be a side effect, I would have seriously considered other options. It was never once mentioned to me that this could be a side effect. In fact there were no side effects discussed at all.
Is there anything that can be done to help fix this problem?
As far as the weight gain goes, I’ve been great. In fact I’ve lost 50lbs after having my gallbladder removed. Now some of the quick witted people will say that it is related to going to the bathroom all the time (while that may have something to do with it), a lot of it had to do with the fact that I joined a gym and work out 3+ times a week.
I am a 43 year old male and play ice hockey 1 once a week in the summer and 3 times a week in the winter.
It wasn’t impossible for me to do take out 2, 3 sometimes 4 times a day. Now I do take out once a week, if that. In fact even if I do take out it is usally something like a sub, rather than a fried chicken and greasy fries.
My energy level sucks so i would like to improve that too if possible.
So the good……….lost weight, and eat better
The bad……BM’s 3+ times a day, and zero energy levelsAny suggestions would be most helpful.
Good luck to all.”
“Hello: It’s been two years since my gallbladder operation. It took me about a year to finally get completely well. I was nauseous for about 6 weeks before the operation and three months after the operation. I thought I would never feel better again. I only wish I had seen this message board while I was sick. It would have made me feel better knowing that it wasn’t all in my mind. I remember my stomach being so sore and tender and how I couldn’t eat very much at all, I had lost a total of 18 pounds. I would get well and then relapse within a few days as soon as I started to eat normally again. As I said this went on for three months and then my internist prescribed Prevocid for me and within two weeks I was better. She thought that I had developed Gastritis after the Gallbladder was removed. I think she was right, because I did start to get better after taking that medication. The problem was that none of the doctors could understand why I was still having the same symptoms I had before the operation. I wish they would start reading up on the Internet and realize that everyone’s body is not what the textbooks say they are.
The other thing that has happened is that just before the surgery, I had bloodwork done and everything was fine, no elevated liver enzymes which I would get now and then, which the doctors felt were attributed to my gallbladder. Then two weeks after the surgery I had this intense pain in the gallbladder region and almost passed out in the drug store awaiting a pain killer prescription. After being rushed to the emergency room and bloodwork being done, I was told that my liver enzymes were elevated, but that it was probably due to the surgery, that there was really no reason for concern and that I could go home. Well eventually everything did seem to go back to normal and a year later, I went back to my doctor for a cold and my doctor suggested my taking a bloodtest. Well, surprisingly, the bloodtest results showed that I still had elevated liver enzymes. Now she was puzzled and thought maybe I had been taking some sort of vitamins or medication that created this problem. She had a liver function test done and everything came back fine. She then told me to have another bloodtest done 2 mos. later and same thing again, elevated liver enzymes. She then sent me to an Gastroenterologist and he had me go for an ultrasound. Ultrasound showed normal liver, pancreas, everything checked out fine. It seems I’m a mystery to the doctors and now he’s thinking of having me go for a Liver Biopsy, which I’m not too anxious to do, because I understand that is not always conclusive. I feel that the liver enzymes has something to do with the gallbladder being removed. My Gastoenterologist thinks I may have Fatty Liver, which I find hard to believe being that I’m just about 5 pounds overweight. Has anyone else had this happen to them? ”
“I am having the same right upper quad pain as well. it’s been about a years and a half that I have had it. It feels like SOMETHING is there. It comes and goes and I can’t really pinpoint it to any food or anything.
I eat healthy, no fried or greasy foods and I also drink tons of water daily and still, it will not go away. I finally went to ER last night, and left with NO answers. They even did an ultrasound, and didnt see anything. The doc thought it “”might”” be stones caught in my bile duct. (had gallbladder removed many years ago) but that was fine.
I am so frustrated and the dr told me to “”go back on”” the prilosec I stopped taking because I did not need it. And I have to go (back) to a gastroenterologist in two weeks.
When in the ER I told the dr’s that you could actually feel where it was when I sat up.. And not ONE of them sat me up, they all told me to lie down!!
Doctors, for the most part s*ck. They NEVER listen. I am tired of this. I just want to be pain free.”
I totally agree that some people have gallbladder surgery and have a great life afterward. I’m not saying that this isn’t possible, but for the rest of us who aren’t so lucky, we live with this pain and the complications. Within a week I was back in the surgeons office with the same pain as I had before the surgery. He was clueless!! And I’ve basically had the same pain ever since. It’s been 15 years now so I’m thinking maybe there was something else going on besides the gallbladder. How many people get pancreatitis after an ERCP that your doctor orders for you, and trust me, you do not want that! You would think after a simple test you would come out the same as you went in but so many people endure this not so lovely illness as a side affect. I’m done with doctors. The pain and symptoms are a part of my everyday living and I go from day to day and go by how I feel but I still work full time and take care of my family, but I also endure this crap as well and somedays I feel wiped out but I still go on because this isn’t going to get the better of me. After awhile you can live with the pain or you get so used to it, it becomes a part of you and you deal with it!! But after that being said kudos to all the people who have the surgery and feel great afterwards and have no problems but be well rest assured there are a few of us out there that do not fare so well. It’s amazing how many people have this pain but have no answers from their doctors. Oh and don’t worry about my hubby, he’s outta here!!! I think we post on these forums to prove this pain exists and we want answers as to why and if you need this type of venue then that’s what they are here for!! I’m glad you are feeling great!!!! I hope you stay that way and don’t have any more problems!! Take care!
I had my gallbladder out when I was 15. Of course I knew nothing about the long-term effects, and had absolutely no choice in the matter. I’ve since suffered with chronic fatigue, depression, anxiety, diarrhea, stomach pain, intolerance to alcohol, and excess weight around my middle. I’m now 28. None of my doctors ever attempted to make a connection between the loss of my gallbladder and these symptoms. I never received any support or practical solutions of any kind from my doctors at that time. Traditional western doctors simply mask problems by prescribing everything under the sun and never getting to the root cause of your suffering. After years on anti-depressants that did nothing to “solve” the problems, I have since taken charge of my own health and seek the advice and recommendations of a naturopath, nutritionist and accupuncturist. I’ve had tremendous success with the regimen I was prescribed both from a mental health aspect as well as physical. There are many direct links between diet and mental health and CLEARLY physical health. I now follow a high protien (from plant sources and organic meat, not dairy), high fiber (from fruits and veggies), and very low carb diet. do your own independent research. But most importantly, know that you are in control of your health- sometimes all you need is INFORMATION! Seek the help and support of a naturopath to get you back to where you were meant to be. Lifestyle changes in conjunction with natural remedies (you can even heal the energy left behind by your missing gallbladder) will be the solution to your misery. I believe it and I’m living proof!
I had my gallbladder out when I was 15. Of course I knew nothing about the long-term effects, and had absolutely no choice in the matter. I’ve since suffered with chronic fatigue, depression, anxiety, diarrhea, stomach pain, intolerance to alcohol, and excess weight around my middle. I’m now 28. None of my doctors ever attempted to make a connection between the loss of my gallbladder and these symptoms. I never received any support or practical solutions of any kind from my doctors at that time. Traditional western doctors simply mask problems by prescribing everything under the sun and never getting to the root cause of your suffering. After years on anti-depressants that did nothing to “solve” the problems, I have since taken charge of my own health and seek the advice and recommendations of a naturopath, nutritionist and accupuncturist. I’ve had tremendous success with the regimen I was prescribed both from a mental health aspect as well as physical. There are many direct links between diet and mental health and CLEARLY physical health. I now follow a high protien (from plant sources and organic meat, not dairy), high fiber (from fruits and veggies), and very low carb diet. do your own independent research. But most importantly, know that you are in control of your health- sometimes all you need is INFORMATION! Seek the help and support of a naturopath to get you back to where you were meant to be. Lifestyle changes in conjunction with natural remedies (you can even heal the energy left behind by your missing gallbladder) will be the solution to your misery. I believe it and I’m living proof!
I had my gallbladder out when I was 15. Of course I knew nothing about the long-term effects, and had absolutely no choice in the matter. I’ve since suffered with chronic fatigue, depression, anxiety, diarrhea, stomach pain, intolerance to alcohol, and excess weight around my middle. I’m now 28. None of my doctors ever attempted to make a connection between the loss of my gallbladder and these symptoms. I never received any support or practical solutions of any kind from my doctors at that time. Traditional western doctors simply mask problems by prescribing everything under the sun and never getting to the root cause of your suffering. After years on anti-depressants that did nothing to “solve” the problems, I have since taken charge of my own health and seek the advice and recommendations of a naturopath, nutritionist and accupuncturist. I’ve had tremendous success with the regimen I was prescribed both from a mental health aspect as well as physical. There are many direct links between diet and mental health and CLEARLY physical health. I now follow a high protien (from plant sources and organic meat, not dairy), high fiber (from fruits and veggies), and very low carb diet. do your own independent research. But most importantly, know that you are in control of your health- sometimes all you need is INFORMATION! Seek the help and support of a naturopath to get you back to where you were meant to be. Lifestyle changes in conjunction with natural remedies (you can even heal the energy left behind by your missing gallbladder) will be the solution to your misery. I believe it and I’m living proof!“I had my gallbladder removed in 2008 because of stones. I had no problems after the surgery but once a month I started to feel tightness in my stomach like gas pains and the gas wouldn’t come up real fast, some nausea that would be relieved with belching. I didn’t pay any attention to it because I thought it came with the territory of having no gallbladder (like maybe I ate something bad) – I was not given a special diet to follow nor any other instruction as to what to follow. So I noticed acids would keep coming up in my throat so it was March 2009 I saw my regular doctor and asked what to do and she referred me to a gastro doctor and said it might be acid reflux. It runs in both sides of my family. Now before I had my gallbladder taken out I could eat anything NO STOMACH PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER.
So I went to the Gastro doc and he ran all kinds of test but I noticed my symptoms got worse because I was so nervous taking those test and my mind was racing thinking the worse. I figured stress was doing this to me because before it was once a month now it is everyday. I had a MRCP to check for stones maybe left behind – None, Hployria – neg, pancritits test – neg, Endoscopy – found mild non specific gastritis. So I did my own research and found that when the bile keeps hitting the stomach wall it can cause gastritis so I found by taking welchol it absorbs the bile and stops the diarrehea so I took it. Gastritis can cause nausea so I thought that was the problem. I also kept getting a pain in the upper right area under the rib and was only relieved if I sat down. It was like a back ache pain. The nausea or gas pain was livable I could stand it and I didn’t have the pain like others have posted. So my gastro kept saying it was stress or your anxiety is acting up. I gave up on him and said to myself I can live with this pain. I did go ahead and have a colonoscopy to check for IBS. That test as well came back perfect. That doctor who performed it told me to check for SODS – I did all kinds of research and found that it not a good success rate for the ercp. So I basically gave up and said I can live with this. I recently got a checkup and my liver enzymes were slightly elevated for ALT but I thought I just got over a UTI and was injected with antiobiotic which will make your liver enzymes go up. So my doctor said we will keep an eye on that because maybe you have a autoimmune disease.
So several months past and I was feeling good and I would have occassional gas but it would pass so fast. I was doing acupuncture, eating right and lost some weight. If I ever got a headache or my menstrual cycle came is when my stomach would get upset but I basically felt there is a reason for that because a headeache and menstrual cycle will do that. I don’t want to believe I have SODS because of all the stories I heard. Plus I have really bad anxiety and panic attacks which came on strong because of all this. Sometimes the gas would make me dizzy – I was just full of it and it came out both ends belching and the other. Again, I always had an excuse for it.
Well, I had to the doctor on Monday because the gas has gotten worse and the acid keeps going in my throat plus whatever I ate made me feel a little nausea. So she prescribed me Zantac to see if it is acid reflux. Her twin had sods and she said that could be it. So I made an appointment to see a specialist at John Hopkins. I feel so depressed because I homeschool my kids and I don’t want to put them through this again of testing like I did last year. I feel there is no hope and my life is ruined because I won’t get relief from the pain I go through once in awhile. How can I get through this – you sound so brave!!! “
i was born with gallstones and was the youngest girl in australia to have my gallbladder removed. I have never experienced problems like those i guess cuz i was so young my body adjusted itself. Im sorry you have this problem sounds like it sucks! i grew up eating all knds of food and not realy worrying about it, until i found out i have celiocs disease so now no flour, pasta cakes or anything really. . all i eat is fresh fruits and veggies a bit of meat and yougurt. love my life.. NOT haha 🙂 just joking at least i will never be HUGE .
I expected my symptoms to disappear. No luck. They never disappeared completely, although I would have periods where they would be better & other times when I would have flare-ups. The symptoms themselves were nearly identical to those that I’d had before the surgery. It was like having gallbladder attacks all over again. I also noticed that stress would set these attacks off. After more testing; stomach acid ph test, motility test, another 2 scopes, 3 cardiac stress tests, more bloodwork (all tests negative), and trials on Prilosec, Prevacid, Propulsid (what a horror that was!), Levsin, Bentyl, Donnatal, it was finally suggested that I might have a problem with Sphincter of Oddi. Apparently, this sphincter at the base of the common bile duct can malfunction either before or after gallbladder surgery & can create symptoms similar to those that we recognize as being related to gallbladder attacks. I only just recently began to research this conditon, called “biliary dyskinesia” or “Odditis”. My gastroenterologist recommended ERCP & sphincter manometry (a procedure in which the bile ducts are examined for stones,obstructions,and abnormal pressure in the ducts or sphincter is evaluated). Stones or obstructions may be removed, or a cut in the sphincter may be performed to help release pressure. Unfortunately, there are often nasty complications from this procedure (pancreatitis, mild or acute, as well as long-term complications that may actually make your conditon worse)& no promises that the procedure will even work to eliminate your symptoms. After reading about the risks & hearing about them from the doctor who was going to perform this procedure on me, as well as reading postings from people who’ve had it done (mostly negative), I chose NOT to have it. I will try diet (avoiding fats, chocolate, spicy foods, citrus, etc. to ease some of the GI symptoms and try to prevent sphincter/duct spasms) and medication (nitrates, anti-spasmodics, and calcium channel blockers have been shown to have some benefit), relaxtion techniques (stress has been shown to be a provacateur in this sydrome), aloe vera gel (2 oz. three time daily) to soothe the stomach, as well as any other techniques that I may come across that may be of benefit. I can tell you that this condition has exacerbated & relapsed (during which symptoms were fairly mild) for me over the past 5 years without any special treatment from me except for one: the Liver/Gallbladder Flush. If you’ve never heard of it, it is something that you might want to consider trying. I always found it to be of benefit in the past, especially before I had my gallbladder surgery (it really provided relief). It seems to clean out the liver & gallbladder & I often found stone-like masses (yellowish-green masses that often looked crystalline & had the consistency of candlewax) in the toilet on the morning after having completed it. Invariably, my pain around the liver area would disappear & my symptoms would subside for lengthy periods of time. I’ll post the procedure later for anyone who might be interested. For all I know, somebody else may have tried it and posted it already. In the meantime, good luck to all. I will record my own results in future, now that I know what I’m dealing with & have plotted a course of action.
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